Summary

An Economist interview with one of its own journalists about his reporting on whether AI models could be conscious. The framing is deliberately careful: the reporter's own answer is no, and most of the piece is about why the question is hard to test rather than about any claim that it has been answered. The most concrete material is a described Anthropic interpretability finding.

Why it matters

This is the most disciplined treatment of machine consciousness the Handbook has logged, and it is useful precisely because its author concludes no. It gives a defensible position to hold - the question is no longer incoherent, the evidence is nowhere near sufficient - and a concrete finding to attach it to. The interpretability result is also independently significant: it says a model is doing work in places the chain of thought does not show, which connects directly to the depth-scaling interpretability worry raised elsewhere this batch. Two different routes to the same conclusion, that what is readable is not what is happening.

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